{"id":546,"date":"2021-06-11T15:00:17","date_gmt":"2021-06-11T14:00:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hodgers.com\/firebacks\/?p=546"},"modified":"2025-07-30T17:50:42","modified_gmt":"2025-07-30T16:50:42","slug":"o-what-a-tangled-web-we-weave","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hodgers.com\/firebacks\/notes\/o-what-a-tangled-web-we-weave","title":{"rendered":"9. “O what a tangled web we weave…”"},"content":{"rendered":"
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This fireback was sold by a famous auction house in 2008, where it was described in the sale catalogue as \u2018An Elizabethan Cast-Iron Fireback by John Harvo of Sussex, 16th century\u2019. It fetched \u00a31,375. When I saw this photograph of it a few years later I was struck by several details which suggested to me that its authenticity was unconvincing. There was something about the \u2018chunkiness\u2019 of the various stamps that adorned its side panels that did not seem right, yet its overall design was familiar.<\/p>\n\n\n

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There are several castings of the John Harvo fireback, most with side panels like this one, but some without, and the name by which it is known derives from the inscription below the arms which states \u2018Made in Sussex by John Harvo\u2019, clearly readable on early castings but less so on copies. Because the stamps used on the side panels would have to be re-arranged for each casting all the examples I had recorded differed to a greater or lesser extent, unless what I was looking at was a copy made from another fireback. Where I had seen this arrangement of stamps before was on a drawing of a badly damaged fireback from Chailey that Mark Antony Lower had included in his seminal article on the Wealden iron industry published in the Sussex Archaeological Collections<\/em> in 1849, and shown here.<\/p>\n\n\n

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Of course, it would be a mistake to trust Lower\u2019s drawing implicitly but there are other firebacks which use some of the same stamps with which direct comparisons can be made. The \u2018rose-en-soleil\u2019 stamp appears on another fireback in Hastings Museum but it has faint flowers around its edge which are absent on the one sold in 2008. The flower head (is it a rose?) on the same back is certainly very similar. And the same letter E is seen on a fireback in Lewes, though somewhat more delicate in its delineation. The \u2018bird\u2019s\u2019 head on the side panel has not been recorded on another fireback, so no comparison is possible.<\/p>\n\n\n

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Where the 2008 fireback really betrays its fakery, though, is in the modelling of the dragon, the supporter on the left of the arms. On Lower\u2019s drawing the top of it is missing altogether so whoever attempted to pass this fireback off as genuine needed to be able make a copy of the head of the dragon from another casting of John Harvo\u2019s original. This never happened, as can be seen in the detail from an early casting also in Hastings. The 2008 version is quite different, there is no hint of the dragon\u2019s wing and the dragon\u2019s mouth extends further upwards and to the right.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

It saddens me that the auction house was taken in by this fake, and that the purchaser paid so much for something that it was not.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

To read more about John Harvo, follow this link<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

This fireback was sold by a famous auction house in 2008, where it was described in the sale catalogue as \u2018An Elizabethan Cast-Iron Fireback by John Harvo of Sussex, 16th century\u2019. It fetched \u00a31,375. When I saw this photograph of it a few years later I was struck by several details which suggested to me that… Continue reading 9. “O what a tangled web we weave…”<\/span> →<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[5,7,28,8],"class_list":["post-546","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-firebacks","tag-sussex-firebacks","tag-tudor-firebacks","tag-wealden-firebacks"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hodgers.com\/firebacks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/546","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hodgers.com\/firebacks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hodgers.com\/firebacks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hodgers.com\/firebacks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hodgers.com\/firebacks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=546"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/hodgers.com\/firebacks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/546\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1939,"href":"https:\/\/hodgers.com\/firebacks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/546\/revisions\/1939"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hodgers.com\/firebacks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=546"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hodgers.com\/firebacks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=546"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hodgers.com\/firebacks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=546"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}